Jane Goodall Shared Desire to Send Elon Musk and Donald Trump on Single-Journey Cosmic Voyage
After dedicating years observing chimpanzee actions, Jane Goodall became an expert on the combative nature of leading males. In a newly published interview filmed shortly before her passing, the celebrated primatologist revealed her unusual solution for dealing with particular figures she viewed as showing similar qualities: sending them on a permanent journey into space.
Legacy Interview Unveils Candid Thoughts
This extraordinary perspective into Goodall's thinking emerges from the Netflix documentary "Famous Last Words", which was captured in March and kept confidential until after her recent passing at the age of 91.
"There are persons I dislike, and I wish to send them on a spacecraft and dispatch them to the world he's sure he'll find," commented Goodall during her discussion with Brad Falchuk.
Specific Individuals Mentioned
When questioned whether the tech billionaire, famous for his questionable behavior and associations, would be part of this group, Goodall responded with certainty.
"Oh, absolutely. He'd be the leader. You can imagine whom I would include on that spacecraft. Along with Musk would be Donald Trump and various Trump's real supporters," she stated.
"And then I would add Russia's leader among them, and I would include Xi Jinping. Without question I would add Israel's prime minister in there and his far-right government. Place them all on that spaceship and launch them."
Previous Criticism
This wasn't the initial instance that Goodall, an advocate of ecological preservation, had expressed criticism about the former president specifically.
In a 2022 interview, she had remarked that he showed "comparable kind of conduct as a male chimpanzee will show when battling for supremacy with a rival. They're upright, they swagger, they present themselves as much larger and hostile than they truly are in order to daunt their opponents."
Leadership Styles
During her final interview, Goodall expanded upon her understanding of alpha personalities.
"We get, notably, two categories of leader. One type succeeds through pure aggression, and due to their strength and they fight, they don't remain indefinitely. The second type succeeds by using their brains, like an aspiring leader will just confront a higher ranking one if his companion, often his brother, is with him. And as we've seen, they remain far more extended periods," she detailed.
Social Interactions
The famous researcher also examined the "social dimension" of conduct, and what her detailed observations had revealed to her about combative conduct displayed by people and chimpanzees when faced with something they viewed as hostile, even if no risk actually existed.
"Chimpanzees observe a stranger from a neighboring community, and they become very stimulated, and their fur bristles, and they reach out and touch another, and they display these faces of hostility and apprehension, and it transmits, and the others absorb that sentiment that a single individual has had, and the entire group grows combative," she explained.
"It spreads rapidly," she added. "Certain displays that grow violent, it permeates the group. Each member wishes to get involved and become aggressive. They're defending their territory or fighting for dominance."
Comparable Human Reactions
When questioned if she believed similar behaviors occurred in human beings, Goodall answered: "Perhaps, sometimes yes. But I firmly think that the majority of individuals are ethical."
"My biggest hope is educating the upcoming generation of caring individuals, roots and shoots. But do we have time? I don't know. These are difficult times."
Historical Context
Goodall, a London native five years before the beginning of the World War II, likened the battle with the difficulties of current political landscape to England opposing the Third Reich, and the "unyielding attitude" shown by the prime minister.
"That doesn't mean you don't have times of despair, but eventually you emerge and state, 'OK, I refuse to let them win'," she remarked.
"It's like the leader throughout the battle, his iconic words, we shall combat them along the shores, we will resist them through the avenues and the cities, then he turned aside to an associate and reportedly stated, 'and we'll fight them using the fragments of shattered glass since that's everything we've bloody well got'."
Parting Words
In her last message, Goodall shared inspiring thoughts for those resisting political oppression and the climate emergency.
"Even today, when Earth is dark, there continues to be possibility. Don't lose hope. When faith diminishes, you turn into apathetic and take no action," she counseled.
"And if you desire to protect the remaining beauty across the globe – should you desire to save the planet for coming generations, future family, later generations – then contemplate the actions you make daily. Because, multiplied a million, multiple occasions, even small actions will generate great change."